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46586. roger buckley             Re: motherboard revision
46587. Jonathan M. Dudley        Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement...
46588. Jonathan M. Dudley        Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46589. Jonathan M. Dudley        Re: Flickerfixer fun
46590. Gerald Mellor             Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46591. Gerald Mellor             Re: Internet costs
46592. Gerald Mellor             Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9.
46593. Gerald Mellor             Re: MUI
46594. Gerald Mellor             Re: (OT) Astronomical figures (was Heart106.2 (Wa
46595. Gerald Mellor             Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9.
46596. Gerald Mellor             Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement...
46597. Eddie Maddock             Re: Spending frenzy prize draw
46598. Eddie Maddock             Re: Spending frenzy prize draw
46599. Eddie Maddock             Re: Spending frenzy prize draw
46600. Robert Johnston           Re: tag!
46601. Nick Lamburn              Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46602. Nick Lamburn              Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46603. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Phase5 Pre-orders
46604. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: New ish
46605. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: tag!
46606. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Spending frenzy prize draw
46607. Robert Johnston           Re: tag!
46608. Ben Vost                  Re: Flickerfixer fun
46609. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: tag!
46610. Robert Johnston           Re: Flickerfixer fun
46611. xatiminey                 Re: Is the Amiga a Games Machine
46612. Robert Johnston           Re: tag!
46613. xatiminey                 Re: hdd probs
46614. Robert Johnston           Re: hdd probs
46615. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: tag!
46616. Robert Johnston           Re: tag!
46617. Ben Vost                  Re: Spending frenzy prize draw
46618. Gerald Mellor             Re: New ish
46619. Ben Vost                  Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46620. Robert Johnston           Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46621. Ben Vost                  My favourite new tagline!
46622. Robert Johnston           Re: My favourite new tagline!
46623. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: New ish
46624. Phil Allen                Re: Is the Amiga a Games Machine
46625. Phil Allen                AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46626. Ben Vost                  Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46627. Robert Johnston           Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46628. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46629. Ben Vost                  Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46630. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46631. Robert Johnston           Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46632. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46633. Sales orders              Re: Phase5 G4 & OS3.5
46634. Robert Johnston           Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46635. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: tag!
46636. Robert Johnston           Re: Phase5 G4 & OS3.5
46637. Ben Vost                  Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46638. Robert Johnston           Re: tag!
46639. Nick Lamburn              Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
46640. Ben Vost                  Welcome FAQ
46641. Nick Lamburn              Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46642. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46643. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: tag!
46644. Nick Lamburn              Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
46645. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Welcome FAQ
46646. Ben Vost                  New ABC
46647. Nick Lamburn              Re: New ABC
46648. Ben Vost                  Re: New ABC
46649. Ben Vost                  ANN
46650. Rick Hodger               Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement...
46651. Robert Johnston           Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement...
46652. Gerald Mellor             Re: New ABC
46653. Robert Johnston           Re: New ABC
46654. Ben Vost                  Re: New ABC
46655. Robert Johnston           Re: New ABC
46656. Paul Laycock              Re: Is the Amiga a Games Machine
46657. Gerald Mellor             Re: New ABC
46658. Ben Vost                  Re: New ABC
46659. Ben Vost                  Welcome FAQ revisited
46660. Gerald Mellor             Re: New ABC
46661. Ben Vost                  Re: New ABC
46662. Robert Johnston           Re: New ABC
46663. Ben Vost                  Re: New ABC
46664. james                     Re: New ABC
46665. Pekka Sippola             Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9.
46666. Robert Johnston           Re: New ABC
46667. Ben Vost                  Re: OT songs
46668. Robert Johnston           Re: OT songs
46669. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Welcome FAQ revisited
46670. Mark                      Re: OT songs
46671. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: New ABC
46672. Nick Lamburn              Re: New ABC
46673. Ben Vost                  Re: New ABC
46674. Sandy Brownlee            Re: New ish
46675. Sandy Brownlee            Re: New ABC
46676. Sandy Brownlee            Re: New ABC
46677. Nick Lamburn              Re: New ABC
46678. james                     Re: New ABC
46679. Robert Johnston           Re: New ish
46680. Ben Vost                  Re: New ABC
46681. Robert Johnston           Re: New ABC
46682. Matthew O'Neill           Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9.
46683. Matthew O'Neill           Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9.
46684. Nick Lamburn              Re: New ABC
46685. Nick Lamburn              Re: New ABC
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From: roger buckley <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:41:59 +0000
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Hello graeme

On 10-Feb-00, you wrote:


>>
>> Which accelerator do you have and is it PCMICA compatible ?.
>
>
> I have a magnum '030/33 accelarator and is meant to be PCMCIA
> compatible

My Viper did the 'cant find memory header' bit when I swapped from 8mb to 16mb
and it turned out to be a fault on the sim. Any way of checking the sim on
another board?
>
Regards
--
Roger

Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB
2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem,
Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer.
Website:-http://callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu
ICQ-62990780 Robuck2
Some people hope to achieve immortality through their works or their
children.  I would prefer to achieve it by not dying.
-- Woody Allen




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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:22:28 +0000
From: "Jonathan M. Dudley" <[e-mail]>
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Bauglir wrote:

>> As you pointed out, "the programmer may not have to use [MUI]", but if they
>> do, should they alone not have to bear the full cost of that decision?
>
> Yeah I agree, but unfortunately that's not the way they chose to do it.
> And I'm grateful for those programmers who did choose to use MUI,
> imho it makes everything look so much nicer, and the configurability it
> gives you over your applications is what AmigaOS should be about.

Can't argue with that. Let's hope we see a vast GUI improvement in future OS
updates/rewrites. Especially the hi-res friendly window borders that shrink
to half size on graphics cards. I could dispense with another hack then.  :)

Regards,
Jonny (using VPrefs).


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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:48:32 +0000
From: "Jonathan M. Dudley" <[e-mail]>
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Nick Lamburn wrote:

> Awww, I was gonna say I was gonna use my Honeywell 516 and 316 and my
> PDP-7 :).  But I could use that abacus of course; now that will get
> about Pentium 166 performance..... :)

Ooh. I started my professional graphics life on a PDP-based Genigraphics
system. Lovely machine...

Regards,
Jonny (down memory lane).


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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:26:52 +0000
From: "Jonathan M. Dudley" <[e-mail]>
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Mash wrote:

> This could be the output from your miffy or the low refresh rate. First, try
> setting it to a higher rate by using an ntsc screen rather than pal. The
> other problem causes vertical lines which dont move though, so I doubt its
> that.

Miffy?

Regards,
Jobby (typing to the left, dressing to the right).


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:04:54 +0000
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On 10 Feb 00, at 1:00, Nick Lamburn wrote:

> Just a slightly related spin on this; but the patch that power's HD
> drives use is called in the startup-sequence; and Micronik's drives
> require no patch.   This must mean that you cannot boot a 1.76Mb HD
> Amiga floppy; which is not a problem for me; only if I wish to fire up
> a game or something which is not often at all. :)

How many Amiga games do you know of that were released on 1.76MB
disks? My Micronik (I presume that's what it is) floppy drive, set as
DF0, can boot Amiga DD floppies, I've never tried making a bootable HD
floppy, I'll try it next time I'm at home.

> One related question; the PC0 DOS Driver (and PC1, PC2....) is set up
> for a DD PC disk; what do I need to change in the mountlist to get it
> to recognise both PC 720K and 1440K?  I'm not sure if it's the tracks
> or sectors that increases (/me suspects both); I know surfaces stays 2
> doesn't it?  Or do I have to make a mountlist one for 720K and one for
> 1440K.

You don't need 2 separate mountlists, IIRC I didn't have to make any
modifications to the DOSDriver to get it to recognise HD disks.

Bauglir


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:05:20 +0000
In-reply-to: <87u9s9$[e-mail]>
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On 10 Feb 00, at 4:10, Samuel Byford wrote:

> I use Cable & Wireless and pay slightly over 1p a minute off-peak and 3
> times that peak (3p).
>
> So 1 hour of time peak is 60*3 - 90p

I think you need to brush up on your maths a little :)

Bauglir


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:05:57 +0000
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On 10 Feb 00, at 19:39, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

> From PowerC's advert, =A315 for A1200 ROMs plus =A335 for WB3.5 - okay, =
add
> P&P on top of that, but ...

It's =A315 for A500/600/2000 ROMs, =A320 for A1200/3000/4000 ones.

Bauglir


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:05:32 +0000
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On 10 Feb 00, at 15:07, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> He says register if you think its worth it, and I dont think it is, sorr=
y. I
> would consider registering, I~d like to, but its simply not worth how mu=
ch
> he's asking.

How much would you be willing to pay? It only costs =A312.50, assuming
you already have a registered version of Netconnect, or MagicWB, or
MultiCX, or any of the Netconnect programs. Even if you don't, it still
only costs =A33 more.

Bauglir


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:05:47 +0000
In-reply-to: <87ukqb$[e-mail]>
References: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFC18@THE_EXCHANGE>
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On 10 Feb 00, at 7:17, David McMinn wrote:

> But to qualify for a physics degree you must have bad spelling ;)

I guess that's why I'm failing a physics degree, eh? ;)

Bauglir


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:05:53 +0000
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On 10 Feb 00, at 16:53, roger buckley wrote:

 > Recently paid 35 quid for amiga magic setup. Cheaper than just
buying the 3.1
> rom chips.

No it's not, buying the ROMs on their own will set you back =A326, 9 quid
cheaper.

Bauglir


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:08:59 +0000
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On 10 Feb 00, at 20:22, Jonathan M. Dudley wrote:

> Can't argue with that. Let's hope we see a vast GUI improvement in future OS
> updates/rewrites. Especially the hi-res friendly window borders that shrink
> to half size on graphics cards. I could dispense with another hack then.  :)

I just wish H&P hadn't chosen to use ClassAct in OS3.5, it looks
so... ugly.

Bauglir


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From: "Eddie Maddock" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 100 03:39:21 -0500
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Hi Kev,

> > So the prize draw that I'm doing this Friday night (after the pub)
>
> Oh God no ... is that a good thing or a bad thing, Eddie?    ;-)

So far as I'm concerned it's a good thing. Just pray I don't lose the
contents of my big hat ("what's all thish bits of paper in me hat
for - hic !")

> > will win someone the following :-
> >
> > One Amiga mouse (with logo)
> > Camcontrol software (and manual)
> > One Star Wars Imperial Stormtrooper keyring (makes authentic sounds)
>
> They sampled an authentic Imperial Stormtrooper??

I haven't actually heard it (as it's sealed in the packaging) but Ben
got a Darth Vader keyring off me. What's that like Ben ?

> > Virtual Karting
> > Ruffian

> As well as the other stuff I ordered I'm now gonna order a couple more
> things, but I guess I'm in the hat already, right?   ;-)

Yes Kev, don't panic, you're in the hat. The odds of winning are
better than the lottery, but they're still pretty low.

Fingers crossed then  ;)

Cheers,

Eddie


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From: "Eddie Maddock" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 100 03:26:49 -0500
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Hi Roger,

> Tried to join the frenzy today at the Electronic Boutique in the Meadowhall
> complex in Sheffield after reports of cheap Amiga software at their other
> branches. Looked round - zilch. Asked and was informed that they don't carry
> 'old' software. Ah well, back to mail order :)

I gave up on Electronic Boutique ages ago (even for Quake total
conversions).  As long as you bought something this last week on
mail order...  er, you did didn't you Roger ?

Cheers,

Eddie (if not, get on the phone today ;))


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From: "Eddie Maddock" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 100 03:30:51 -0500
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Hi Morgan,

> > I think I've got the names of most people who said they'd bought / be
> > buying something this week. Anyone who's not spoken up, or is
>
> I got the full AWebII yesterday. I got tired of the crippled version
> in OS3.5 and bought it. I find it /very/ nice!  Oh, and I got C4DPro
> and PPaint as well.

Right, into the big hat you go then  ;)

Anyone else out there bought / about to buy something ? The spending
frenzy ends tonight, so make yourself known before then.

Cheers,

Eddie


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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:15:15 -0000
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> > Then do what I do and steal them from people's emails... :)
>
> is there a shell command to append a line of text to a file?
> I just want a
> simple button to add:
>
> %%
> <clipboard contents>

Echo >>Filename "%%"
Echo >>Filename <clips:0

IIRC

--


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:44:08 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

> > Just a slightly related spin on this; but the patch that power's HD
> > drives use is called in the startup-sequence; and Micronik's drives
> > require no patch.   This must mean that you cannot boot a 1.76Mb HD
> > Amiga floppy; which is not a problem for me; only if I wish to fire
up
> > a game or something which is not often at all. :)
>
> How many Amiga games do you know of that were released on 1.76MB
> disks?

I wasn't referring to 1760K disks; just referring to disks i boot from
in general; in answer to your question, none. :)  I should have made it
clearer.

All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:50:59 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

> > I'm not saying it is the best solution - but the XL interface is the
> > simplest we've seen so far.
>
> Yes, and Tony's stopped doing them because he was selling so few as
to make
> it pointless.

Like Chris has been saying; Power could do well out of simply
manufacturing the buffer which basically works the XL drives.  And I
agree the price is OTT AND :) that the Catweasel is a little bit of a
problem sometimes under emulation.  The latter is crucial; it's why I'm
getting a HD drive because I have suffered under PC-Task/PCx and
ShapeShifter under DD disks for too long! :)

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 09:24:07 +0000
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:53:00 +0100, Sandy Brownlee ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hello Kevin

'lo

> On 10-Feb-00, you wrote:
>
> > Wait a minute, it's going to be using WOS?   So I have to install that to
> > use FusionPPC?  Why didn't they tell me this before?  ;-)
>
>
> It's not that bad; *I* managed it...

Surprising as it might seem, I've just not got around to it yet.  All my
PPC stuff works with p5's libs, so I've no need (as of yet) to swap ....

Kev

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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 09:27:44 +0000
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:32:29 +0100, Sandy Brownlee ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hello Kevin

'lo

> On 09-Feb-00, you wrote:
>
> >>> 0-99 is the first hundred, 2899-2999 is the thirtieth hundred.
> >>
> >> Should that not be,
> >>
> >> 0-99 is the first hundred, 2900-2999 is the thirteenth hundred?
>
> <Snip numbers >
>
> > 1200-1299   <-  THIS is the 13th (thirteenth) hundred!  :-)
>
> D'oh! I meant thirtieth (30th), but you probably knew that.

But someone said that and you replied to correct them!  Look up there ^
it's in the quote history!  Wiggle you way outta that one, worm ....

BTW, when is Worms Armageddon due out for the Amiga?

(phew, just managed to drag that on topic there.  hope no-one noticed ;)

Kev

--
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 09:33:13 +0000
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:15:15 -0000, Robert Johnston ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > > Then do what I do and steal them from people's emails... :)
> >
> > is there a shell command to append a line of text to a file?
> > I just want a
> > simple button to add:
> >
> > %%
> > <clipboard contents>
>
> Echo >>Filename "%%"
> Echo >>Filename <clips:0
>
> IIRC


Oi!  I said that!!  And I think I was wrong too, btw ...   ;-)

I don't think YAM uses the clips:0 file, which prevents this from working
:(

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 09:32:17 +0000
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On 11 Feb 100 03:39:21 -0500, Eddie Maddock ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi Kev,

Heyyyy </fonz>

> > > So the prize draw that I'm doing this Friday night (after the pub)
> >
> > Oh God no ... is that a good thing or a bad thing, Eddie?    ;-)
>
> So far as I'm concerned it's a good thing. Just pray I don't lose the
> contents of my big hat ("what's all thish bits of paper in me hat
> for - hic !")

Hmmm, well it's better than losing the contents of your stomach!  All I
know is that I was at the pub last night and was in no fit state to do a
prize draw when I got in!  At least I didn't make a fool of myself and
start posting here   ;-)

> > > One Star Wars Imperial Stormtrooper keyring (makes authentic sounds)
> >
> > They sampled an authentic Imperial Stormtrooper??
>
> I haven't actually heard it (as it's sealed in the packaging) but Ben
> got a Darth Vader keyring off me. What's that like Ben ?

Oh right - I was just doubting the authnticity is all ....

> > As well as the other stuff I ordered I'm now gonna order a couple more
> > things, but I guess I'm in the hat already, right?   ;-)
>
> Yes Kev, don't panic, you're in the hat. The odds of winning are
> better than the lottery, but they're still pretty low.

lol!

> Fingers crossed then  ;)

and toes ...

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:46:09 -0000
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> > > > Then do what I do and steal them from people's emails... :)
> > >
> > > is there a shell command to append a line of text to a file?
> > > I just want a
> > > simple button to add:
> > >
> > > %%
> > > <clipboard contents>
> >
> > Echo >>Filename "%%"
> > Echo >>Filename <clips:0
>
> Oi!  I said that!!  And I think I was wrong too, btw ...   ;-)

You were... you said 'Echo >>ram:myfile "%%*n"' and the "*n" is not
required, Echo puts it in automagically unless you use the "NOLINE"
argument.
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:45:18 +0000
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Hi Matthew,

> This could be the output from your miffy or the low refresh rate. First,
> try setting it to a higher rate by using an ntsc screen rather than pal.
> The other problem causes vertical lines which dont move though, so I doubt
> its that.

I always had a problem with my pet rabbit too. No matter how I connected it,
the signal on the telly didn't improve at all...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 09:46:35 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFC27@THE_EXCHANGE>
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:46:09 -0000, Robert Johnston ([e-mail]) wrote:

> > Oi!  I said that!!  And I think I was wrong too, btw ...   ;-)
>
> You were... you said 'Echo >>ram:myfile "%%*n"' and the "*n" is not
> required, Echo puts it in automagically unless you use the "NOLINE"
> argument.

Oh yeah ... forgot about that ... I was trying to work out the latter step
bit when I wrote it so wasn't thinking straight </lame excuse>

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:48:36 -0000
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> > This could be the output from your miffy or the low refresh
> rate. First,
> > try setting it to a higher rate by using an ntsc screen
> rather than pal.
> > The other problem causes vertical lines which dont move
> though, so I doubt
> > its that.
>
> I always had a problem with my pet rabbit too. No matter how
> I connected it,
> the signal on the telly didn't improve at all...

/me points Ben at AFB-OT, and enjoys the Acoustic version of "Here comes the
sun" while he waits on hold for IMC...
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:49:17 -0800
From: "xatiminey" <[e-mail]>
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Phil Allen wrote:
>
> All very well having a net version, but did anyone ever answer an SOS
> from you? I sat there for two real days transmitting "Help I've broken
> down." Not a sausage did I get.
>
Thats cos they're all sitting in their ships, laughing their heads off.
I'm sure if there were any pirates about they'd respond pretty pronto =)
But thats just the sort of thing Im talking about with the depth of the
game. I want people to respond to my SOSs, I want to be able to post
messages to the bulletin board, just like everyone else on the
planet/orbiter can. I want to go to dock side bars, get drunk and kill
someone in a brawl, and I want to be able to hold planets to ransom with
that large plasma driver I just bought =)

But ya cant. =(

-curry, mourning massive data loss
--

I'm quite happy to solder stuff, as long as it isn't mine :)


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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:51:49 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Fairhurst [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 09:47
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: tag!
>
> > You were... you said 'Echo >>ram:myfile "%%*n"' and the "*n" is not
> > required, Echo puts it in automagically unless you use the "NOLINE"
> > argument.
>
> Oh yeah ... forgot about that ... I was trying to work out
> the latter step
> bit when I wrote it so wasn't thinking straight </lame excuse>

I was kinda doin' the same thing... I couldn't remember if CLIPS: had it's
own assign or not, as I'm sitting here at a *Spit Spit* PC. :((
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:57:12 -0800
From: "xatiminey" <[e-mail]>
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Neil Bothwick wrote:

>It's dead Jim. If you can get it to spin up for long enough to retrieve
>data, do so. But don't save anything to it.

>"Backup and bin it" is the only solution I'm afraid.

Bummer. guess I'd better find something to back it up onto before I try
to get it working again.
Maybe I could poen it up and manually spin the disks! ;)

Nick Darley-Jones wrote:
> and installing all my software it squeeked and squeeled and stopped.
> This was only after a week!

Perhaps a case of those who burn twice as bright burn for half as long.
Or atleast, those who have twice the space spin for half as long. =)
Cos my toshiba 80M 2.5" hdd is been going for ages. Its probably at
least 5 years old and its working fine.

Damned good job I'd just backed up my decent music to my Amiga.

-curry
--
I'm quite happy to solder stuff, as long as it isn't mine :)


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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: xatiminey [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 17:57
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: hdd probs
>
> Maybe I could poen it up and manually spin the disks! ;)

Then (After fixing your finger) you could OPEN it up...
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 10:00:43 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFC29@THE_EXCHANGE>
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:51:49 -0000, Robert Johnston ([e-mail]) wrote:

> > Oh yeah ... forgot about that ... I was trying to work out
> > the latter step
> > bit when I wrote it so wasn't thinking straight </lame excuse>
>
> I was kinda doin' the same thing... I couldn't remember if CLIPS: had it's
> own assign or not, as I'm sitting here at a *Spit Spit* PC. :((

I'll be getting one of them buggers soon - work are insisting on it so I
can tele-work from home.  What a gyp!  I'm meant to be working from home?
;-)


Kev


PS I tried the "what's wrong with my Amiga?" angle but even with
WordConvertor I can't edit + save MS files properly so that's out of the
window ...

--
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:04:28 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Fairhurst [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 10:01
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: tag!
>
> > I was kinda doin' the same thing... I couldn't remember if
> CLIPS: had it's
> > own assign or not, as I'm sitting here at a *Spit Spit* PC. :((
>
> I'll be getting one of them buggers soon - work are insisting
> on it so I
> can tele-work from home.  What a gyp!  I'm meant to be
> working from home?
> ;-)

Working??? Hang on, I've got a dictionary round here somewhere...

Later...

Nope, Haven't done that before...

> PS I tried the "what's wrong with my Amiga?" angle but even with
> WordConvertor I can't edit + save MS files properly so that's
> out of the
> window ...

Out of the window (Bad thing), or out of Windows (Good Thing)?
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:08:04 +0000
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Hi Eddie,

> I haven't actually heard it (as it's sealed in the packaging) but Ben
> got a Darth Vader keyring off me. What's that like Ben ?

Ah well, to be brutally honest Eddie, it made a nice tree pressie for Dan,
so you'll have to ask him...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:14:00 +0000
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On 11 Feb 00, at 9:27, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

>>>>> 0-99 is the first hundred, 2899-2999 is the thirtieth hundred.
>>>>
>>>> Should that not be,
>>>>
>>>> 0-99 is the first hundred, 2900-2999 is the thirteenth hundred?
>>
>> D'oh! I meant thirtieth (30th), but you probably knew that.
>
> But someone said that and you replied to correct them!  Look up there ^
> it's in the quote history!  Wiggle you way outta that one, worm ....

He was replying to correct the "2899", not the "thirtieth", AFAICT.

Bauglir


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:15:11 +0000
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Hi Nick,

> Like Chris has been saying; Power could do well out of simply
> manufacturing the buffer which basically works the XL drives.  And I
> agree the price is OTT AND :) that the Catweasel is a little bit of a
> problem sometimes under emulation.  The latter is crucial; it's why I'm=

> getting a HD drive because I have suffered under PC-Task/PCx and
> ShapeShifter under DD disks for too long! :)

Just spoke to Tony to find out the reason for you. The main controller ch=
ip
was a custom job that cost Power =A320,000 to produce initially. The reas=
on
there are no longer any XL drives is the fact that the company that
produced these chips decided that Tony was taking too long ordering batch=
es
and decided to tip 5,000 of them away. Anyone got 20 grand to produce a n=
ew
batch?

All the best,
-- =

Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:21:37 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Vost [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 10:15
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: A4000 High Density Floppy Problems
>=20
> Just spoke to Tony to find out the reason for you. The main=20
> controller chip
> was a custom job that cost Power =A320,000 to produce=20
> initially. The reason
> there are no longer any XL drives is the fact that the company that
> produced these chips decided that Tony was taking too long=20
> ordering batches
> and decided to tip 5,000 of them away. Anyone got 20 grand to=20
> produce a new
> batch?

So you can't even get warranty replacements? I got one that went poof =
not so
long ago...
--=20
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:21:24 +0000
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Hi,

Just for the tag fans out there...

All the best,
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Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
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and if we give them 2.54 centimetres they'll take 1.609 kilometres!




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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:23:56 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Vost [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 10:21
> To: AFB mailing list
> Subject: [afb] My favourite new tagline!
>
> Stop metricationists! They are demanding their 454 grammes of flesh,
> and if we give them 2.54 centimetres they'll take 1.609 kilometres!

Roflol!!!!
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Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 10:26:57 +0000
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:14:00 +0000, Gerald Mellor ([e-mail]) wrote:
> On 11 Feb 00, at 9:27, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:
>
> >>>>> 0-99 is the first hundred, 2899-2999 is the thirtieth hundred.
> >>>>
> >>>> Should that not be,
> >>>>
> >>>> 0-99 is the first hundred, 2900-2999 is the thirteenth hundred?
> >>
> >> D'oh! I meant thirtieth (30th), but you probably knew that.
> >
> > But someone said that and you replied to correct them!  Look up there ^
> > it's in the quote history!  Wiggle you way outta that one, worm ....
>
> He was replying to correct the "2899", not the "thirtieth", AFAICT.

No he wasn't, why else do you think he said "I meant thirtieth" ??

Kev, expecting Ben to wade in saying "Tubbs? What's all this off-topic
chatter? We'll have no shouting here!"

--
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:35:04 -0800
From: "Phil Allen" <[e-mail]>
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xatiminey wrote:

> I want people to respond to my SOSs, I want to be able to post
> messages to the bulletin board, just like everyone else on the
> planet/orbiter can. I want to go to dock side bars, get drunk and kill
> someone in a brawl, and I want to be able to hold planets to ransom
with
> that large plasma driver I just bought =)
>

Sat outside a space station for a day once, with a large plasma
accelerator firing into the docking bay. Cleaned out their police fleet
but didn't even scratch the station. At the risk of sounding
patronising, it sounds as if you're waiting for E2260. The sole (not
quite) reason I want a PPC and graphics card.

Regards, Phil



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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:36:50 -0800
From: "Phil Allen" <[e-mail]>
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Okay, this may be a dumb question but I'll ask it anyway. How do I
write an AmigaGuide?

Cheers, Phil




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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:36:25 +0000
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Hi Phil,

> Okay, this may be a dumb question but I'll ask it anyway. How do I
> write an AmigaGuide?

Start a text file with @database and then have a look at a bunch of other
amigaguides in a text editor to see how to do (or look for an old issue of
AF where we did a tutorial).

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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comes from is nothing. Wait til you learn where babies come from.




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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:37:45 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Allen [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 10:37
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] AmigaGuide - how the hell?
>
> Okay, this may be a dumb question but I'll ask it anyway. How do I
> write an AmigaGuide?

IIRC, there was a big guide on it in AF not so long ago...
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 10:37:02 +0000
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:36:50 -0800, Phil Allen ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Okay, this may be a dumb question but I'll ask it anyway. How do I
> write an AmigaGuide?

Search aminet for Heddley ...

Kev

--
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:38:19 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFC30@THE_EXCHANGE>
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Hi Robert,

>> Okay, this may be a dumb question but I'll ask it anyway. How do I
>> write an AmigaGuide?

> IIRC, there was a big guide on it in AF not so long ago...

I would consider doing a beginners guide for it, but it would look soooo
boring...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 10:41:10 +0000
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:38:19 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> >> Okay, this may be a dumb question but I'll ask it anyway. How do I
> >> write an AmigaGuide?
>
> > IIRC, there was a big guide on it in AF not so long ago...
>
> I would consider doing a beginners guide for it, but it would look soooo
> boring...

Surely with a util such as Heddley available then it's pointless anyway?

Kev

PS  Any chance of a beginners guide to PPC software?  Maybe more relevant
when Gx's are out along with FusuionPPC, but it'll give you something to
write about ... could be coupled with a(nother) CD full of lovely PPC
progs ...

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:45:15 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Fairhurst [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 10:41
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
>
> > >> Okay, this may be a dumb question but I'll ask it
> anyway. How do I
> > >> write an AmigaGuide?
> >
> > > IIRC, there was a big guide on it in AF not so long ago...
> >
> > I would consider doing a beginners guide for it, but it
> would look soooo
> > boring...
>
> Surely with a util such as Heddley available then it's
> pointless anyway?

Sureley with a util such as MS FrontPage 2000 available then it's not worth
learning to code HTML...

Isn't always true, y'know...
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 10:46:21 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFC31@THE_EXCHANGE>
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:45:15 -0000, Robert Johnston ([e-mail]) wrote:

> > > I would consider doing a beginners guide for it, but it  would look soooo
> > > boring...
> >
> > Surely with a util such as Heddley available then it's
> > pointless anyway?
>
> Sureley with a util such as MS FrontPage 2000 available then it's not worth
> learning to code HTML...
>
> Isn't always true, y'know...

I know, I know, I was just saying ....


;)


Kev, wondering how many people on here actually code AmigaGuides by hand!


--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: "Sales orders" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:43:42 -0000
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-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Allen <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: 02 February 2000 19:20
Subject: [afb] Re: Phase5 G4 & OS3.5


>
>Hi Vaughn,
>You wrote:
>> Are they out now? I thought Phase5 were still waiting for the bridge
>chip.
>> Or do you mean you've pre-ordered?
>>
>> Either way, buy 3.5.
>>
>
>My mistake. I've pre-ordered, but I rang Eyetech to get the latest and
>they said "We've got the prototype, we expect the shipments imminently."
>


Obviously some crossed wires here. We were expecting *BVisions* imminently
from DCE. We have never expected G4's until well after Easter - even when
phase 5 were solvent.

Currently we're looking to see if its economically feasible to pick up the
design/development and roll it forward into manufacturing, either alone or
in partnership with someone like DCE.





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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:51:37 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Fairhurst [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 10:46
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: AmigaGuide - how the hell?
>
> > > > I would consider doing a beginners guide for it, but it
>  would look soooo
> > > > boring...
> > >
> > > Surely with a util such as Heddley available then it's
> > > pointless anyway?
> >
> > Sureley with a util such as MS FrontPage 2000 available
> then it's not worth
> > learning to code HTML...
> >
> > Isn't always true, y'know...
>
> I know, I know, I was just saying ....
>
> ;)

:))

> Kev, wondering how many people on here actually code
> AmigaGuides by hand!

/me puts his hand up "I do"
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 10:52:46 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFC2C@THE_EXCHANGE>
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:04:28 -0000, Robert Johnston ([e-mail]) wrote:

> > I'll be getting one of them buggers soon - work are insisting  on it so I
> > can tele-work from home.  What a gyp!  I'm meant to be working from home?
> > ;-)
>
> Working??? Hang on, I've got a dictionary round here somewhere...
>
> Later...
>
> Nope, Haven't done that before...

That's what I thought!

> > PS I tried the "what's wrong with my Amiga?" angle but even with
> > WordConvertor I can't edit + save MS files properly so that's
> > out of the window ...
>
> Out of the window (Bad thing), or out of Windows (Good Thing)?

Out of the window  :-(

Unless someone knows if FW can handle Word documents fully, and if there's
an update to TC5 that can handle newer Excel stuff?

I said that as long as they saved them in older formats, everything would
be fine, but was shouted down   :(

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:54:21 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sales orders [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 09:44
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: Phase5 G4 & OS3.5
>
> >> Are they out now? I thought Phase5 were still waiting for
> the bridge
> >chip.
> >> Or do you mean you've pre-ordered?
> >>
> >> Either way, buy 3.5.
> >>
> >
> >My mistake. I've pre-ordered, but I rang Eyetech to get the
> latest and
> >they said "We've got the prototype, we expect the shipments
> imminently."
> >
>
>
> Obviously some crossed wires here. We were expecting
> *BVisions* imminently
> from DCE. We have never expected G4's until well after Easter
> - even when
> phase 5 were solvent.
>
> Currently we're looking to see if its economically feasible
> to pick up the
> design/development and roll it forward into manufacturing,
> either alone or
> in partnership with someone like DCE.

I didn't know Eyetech Sub'd to AFB!!! WOOHOO!
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
Friends, Romans, Countrymen, Lend me your money...


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:54:47 +0000
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Hi Kevin,

> Kev, wondering how many people on here actually code AmigaGuides by hand!

Whenever I've done them, it's always been by hand.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Excuse for the day: piezo-electric interference




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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:56:26 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Fairhurst [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 10:53
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: tag!
>
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:04:28 -0000, Robert Johnston
> ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> > > I'll be getting one of them buggers soon - work are
> insisting  on it so I
> > > can tele-work from home.  What a gyp!  I'm meant to be
> working from home?
> > > ;-)
> >
> > Working??? Hang on, I've got a dictionary round here somewhere...
> >
> > Later...
> >
> > Nope, Haven't done that before...
>
> That's what I thought!

:)

> > > PS I tried the "what's wrong with my Amiga?" angle but even with
> > > WordConvertor I can't edit + save MS files properly so that's
> > > out of the window ...
> >
> > Out of the window (Bad thing), or out of Windows (Good Thing)?
>
> Out of the window  :-(
>
> Unless someone knows if FW can handle Word documents fully,
> and if there's
> an update to TC5 that can handle newer Excel stuff?
>
> I said that as long as they saved them in older formats,
> everything would
> be fine, but was shouted down   :(

What? No RTF? No CSV? What group of Amateurs d'you work for? :))

j/k
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
If at first you don't suceed, It was never meant to happen anyway...


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:57:25 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
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Hi Ben,

> > Like Chris has been saying; Power could do well out of simply
> > manufacturing the buffer which basically works the XL drives.  And I
> > agree the price is OTT AND :) that the Catweasel is a little bit of
a
> > problem sometimes under emulation.  The latter is crucial; it's why
I'm
> > getting a HD drive because I have suffered under PC-Task/PCx and
> > ShapeShifter under DD disks for too long! :)
>
> Just spoke to Tony to find out the reason for you. The main
controller chip
> was a custom job that cost Power =A320,000 to produce initially. The
reason
> there are no longer any XL drives is the fact that the company that
> produced these chips decided that Tony was taking too long ordering
batches
> and decided to tip 5,000 of them away. Anyone got 20 grand to produce
a new
> batch?

Thanks Ben for phoning Power; that's very kind of you. :)  The PowerXL
drive was first released in 1994 iirc; and at that time, =A320,000 spent
on the Amiga market isn't as ludicrous as it is today! :)  Bit stupid
chucking the all away though!  Well, I don't blame Tony for not getting
a new batch =A320,000 is a lorra money in the Amiga market these days!

All the best,

Nick.





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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:57:35 +0000
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Hi all,

So I guess that aside from my neologism, a surfeit of exclams in the first
para and the word wrap, my welcome message is fine then?

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:00:51 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

> > Kev, wondering how many people on here actually code AmigaGuides by
hand!
>
> Whenever I've done them, it's always been by hand.

I must admit something here; I'm sure my brain fills up and forgets
things I haven't done for yonks! :)  Case point:  I used to write
AmigaGuides all the time by hand; then I learnt Blitz around 1996 and
since then I have forgotten how to write them; therefore I use Heddley!
:)

/me mumbles lazy git :)

All the best,

Nick.

Bother said Poo as he caught Tigger nicking his toaster.



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 10:58:43 +0000
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:54:47 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi Kevin,

'lo

> > Kev, wondering how many people on here actually code AmigaGuides by hand!
>
> Whenever I've done them, it's always been by hand.


Well that's me told!    :-)


Kev, off to play Re-volt on his <censored>


--
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 10:59:47 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFC34@THE_EXCHANGE>
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:56:26 -0000, Robert Johnston ([e-mail]) wrote:

> > I said that as long as they saved them in older formats,
> > everything would
> > be fine, but was shouted down   :(
>
> What? No RTF? No CSV? What group of Amateurs d'you work for? :))
>
> j/k


They want to be able to just e-mail any files to a bunch of people and not
have to convert it all into a different format just for me ...

Anyway i'm looking for alternative employment as it happens so  Imight
never get the PC   :-)


Kev

--
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:02:49 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Ben,

> > Okay, this may be a dumb question but I'll ask it anyway. How do I
> > write an AmigaGuide?

Some time around end of 1997 iirc, i think it was the Christmas issue?
Not sure. :)

All the best,

Nick.

Bother said Poo as he caught Tigger farting in his soup.



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 11:00:58 +0000
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:57:35 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi all,

Hi Ben,

> So I guess that aside from my neologism, a surfeit of exclams in the first
> para and the word wrap, my welcome message is fine then?

'spose ....     :-)

Kev

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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:03:26 +0000
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Hi all,

You can check it out for yourselves if you go to the ABC website, but our
new ABC was announced at midnight last night. We are now selling:

                      1998       1999    move
Amiga Format         14,644     *11,146*   -24%

:(

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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of good taste, reach for DyDo.




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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:13:12 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Ben,

> You can check it out for yourselves if you go to the ABC website, but
our
> new ABC was announced at midnight last night. We are now selling:
>
>                       1998       1999    move
> Amiga Format         14,644     *11,146*   -24%
>
> :(

I honestly thought it would be worse than that Ben, more like 9,000
ABC. :(  Well I just hope that's a goo enough figure to keep AF
chugging along... :)  Oh and let's hope you get plenty of adverts! :)

All the best,

Nick.

Bother said Poo as he caught Tigger nicking his car stereo.



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:13:30 +0000
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Hi Nick,

> I honestly thought it would be worse than that Ben, more like 9,000
> ABC. :(  Well I just hope that's a goo enough figure to keep AF
> chugging along... :)  Oh and let's hope you get plenty of adverts! :)

That's the main problem right now.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:14:54 +0000
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Hi all,

Those of you who visit ANN on a regular basis will notice that we have a
couple of news stories on it. If there's something on here that *you* think
is worth the wider world knowing, please forward it to Christian Kemp since
I might not get the time to do so...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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your calendar age by 4.8 to get your age in far more telling
"Aquarius years."




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From: Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:54:58 +0000
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I watched as Jonathan M. Dudley hammered "[afb] Re: MUI - was: A crappy
announcement..." out on their keyboard...

> Rick Hodger wrote:

>> But then you're going to get into a whole load of fun...should the ISP
>> pay for the FTP client because that's what they decided to use for users
>> to upload their webpages? Should any company manufacturing radios pay for
>> the electricity required to run them because that's how they decided to
>> make it work? Should the games coders who decide to make their games PPC
>> only, provide the end users with PPC cards? Should car dealers provide a
>> life's time supply of petrol, because that's what their cars run on?

> A whole load of fun indeed.

> [South Park]
> I'm not touching that one with a ten foot pole.

Yes indeedy...

>> Most of the internet software available for the miggy simply wouldn't be
>> possible without MUI, it's all well and good arguing about it...but
>> Gadtools is very dated and limited...hell, it doesn't even have font
>> sensitivity...it's up to the programmer to put that in.

> Let's hope that the OS GUI gets a serious face-lift in a future
> update/rewrite, thereby negating the whole issue.

If what I've been told, will happen....it'll be goooood....

--
<sb>Rick Hodger - rick . thehub @ bigfoot . com
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<sb>
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:21:43 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Hodger [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 10 February 2000 20:55
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement...
>
> If what I've been told, will happen....it'll be goooood....

And what have you been told?
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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Life: Loathe it, or ignore it, you can't like it - Marvin, The Hitch-Hiker's
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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:27:54 +0000
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On 11 Feb 00, at 11:03, Ben Vost wrote:

> You can check it out for yourselves if you go to the ABC website, but our
> new ABC was announced at midnight last night. We are now selling:
>
>                       1998       1999    move
> Amiga Format         14,644     *11,146*   -24%

That's not good... just how far can the sales drop before Future
decide AF is no longer viable? Although let's hope that never
happens :)

Bauglir - trying to be optimistic :)


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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:29:53 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerald Mellor [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 11:28
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: New ABC
>
> > Amiga Format         14,644     *11,146*   -24%
>
> That's not good... just how far can the sales drop before Future
> decide AF is no longer viable? Although let's hope that never
> happens :)

And how long before the Magazine's run off the ML?
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:35:38 +0000
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Hi Gerald,

>>                      1998       1999    move
>> Amiga Format         14,644     *11,146*   -24%

> That's not good... just how far can the sales drop before Future
> decide AF is no longer viable? Although let's hope that never
> happens :)

There are changes on the way that ensure that AF has a longer life, but I
can't say what right now...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:39:58 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Vost [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 11:36
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: New ABC
>
> > That's not good... just how far can the sales drop before Future
> > decide AF is no longer viable? Although let's hope that never
> > happens :)
>
> There are changes on the way that ensure that AF has a longer
> life, but I
> can't say what right now...

You're not thinking of a... <Pause for dramatic effect> ...Merger with
another magazine (Dr. Who Monthly?!)?
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
<SINGING>Direct me to my abode, I'm fatigued and I wish to
retire...</SINGING>


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:45:05 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Phil,

> > I want people to respond to my SOSs, I want to be able to post
> > messages to the bulletin board, just like everyone else on the
> > planet/orbiter can. I want to go to dock side bars, get drunk and
kill
> > someone in a brawl, and I want to be able to hold planets to ransom
> with
> > that large plasma driver I just bought =)

> At the risk of sounding
> patronising, it sounds as if you're waiting for E2260. The sole (not
> quite) reason I want a PPC and graphics card.

He is not the only one! When I first heard about it in CU all those
years ago, I thought, WOW! this game is gonna be great. 95 years
later... still not out. With network play, this could be the best game
in the world...ever!

Paul Laycock



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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:45:43 +0000
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On 11 Feb 00, at 11:03, Ben Vost wrote:

> You can check it out for yourselves if you go to the ABC website, but our
> new ABC was announced at midnight last night. We are now selling:
>
>                       1998       1999    move
> Amiga Format         14,644     *11,146*   -24%

Do you know how many of the remaining sales are the DD version?

Bauglir


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:47:50 +0000
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Hi Gerald,

>>                      1998       1999    move
>> Amiga Format         14,644     *11,146*   -24%

> Do you know how many of the remaining sales are the DD version?

About 1,200, maybe more.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:48:33 +0000
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Hi all,

Here's the updated FAQ. Let me know what you think:

---8<---

*Welcome to afb!*

*Please don't delete this message. If you want to unsubscribe from*
*afb, it will tell you what to do. Just keep it to one side, in your*
*archived folder, or some such.*

Since the list is pretty high on traffic, I think you should know
what to expect on your first day on the list. Here is a list of
points to bear in mind. They aren't in any particular order, so just
read through them all:

*Unsubscribing* You don't actually have to unsubcribe from the list
if the traffic is too high for you, you can just switch your
subscription to being web-based, or a daily digest. If you really do
want to unsubscribe, go to http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/

*Delayed Posting* afb has a lot of messages every day. If you don't
have a permanent network connection, you'll find that it pays to read
through all the mails before replying, since the question you are
replying to may well have already been answered several times in the
time between you receiving the initial mail and your reply.

*Polls* If you want to set a poll, have a careful think about it
first. Mill the question over in your mind and work out how you can
best word it to fit into a maximum of eight choices for an answer.
Once you've done that, think again on how you want to word your
question so that no-one can pick a hole in it and say they would have
chosen an option you didn't include. After that bit, fill out the
form on the website for creating a poll, but remember to put a date
in your text! Look at the other polls on the page already for
guidance on where to put it, and remember, if your poll doesn't have
a date, it'll get cancelled.

*Quoting* Please pay attention to how others quote on the list. We
don't like PC-style quoting of the entire message with your reply at
the top. We also don't like "proper"-style quoting yet, with the
entire original message quoted. There are plenty of folk on the list
who have to pay to download messages, don't make them pay more than
they have to.

*Writing* If you're going to post, please wait a moment before
sending it. Does it add to the information on afb, or merely repeat
it? Are you going to insult someone (don't do it!)? Check your
spelling and grammar, I don't think that many on the list are English
graduates, but even so.

*Replying* Make sure you quote properly (qv.), make sure you don't
insult people, make sure your reply is necessary and that someone
hasn't already given the info.

*MANAGER posts* Please make sure you read them. There'll be a
concrete reason for them, so you can guarantee they'll be important.

*Moderation* There is a limit of 150 posts per day on afb. The daily
limit is from 8AM to 8AM GMT the following day (because of the fact
that eGroups are based on the west coast of the States and are thus
eight hours behind GMT). If you receive a moderation message, this
isn't a cue for you to ask the list owner why you are being moderated
(the reason for moderation is almost always given in the moderation
message body). Just wait and if your message is really worth it,
re-post the following day.

*Bouncing* If you find that messages aren't getting to you, simply
send yourself a message from the afb website at
http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/. That usually clears up your
bouncing. Bouncing status is checked every so often anyway, so it's
unlikely this will happen.

v1.1 11.02.00

--->8---

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:52:43 +0000
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On 11 Feb 00, at 11:47, Ben Vost wrote:

>>>                      1998       1999    move
>>> Amiga Format         14,644     *11,146*   -24%
>
>> Do you know how many of the remaining sales are the DD version?
>
> About 1,200, maybe more.

So it's not worth dropping the floppy version yet, then? Would that
cut costs?

Bauglir


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:52:46 +0000
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Hi Gerald,

>>>>                      1998       1999    move
>>>> Amiga Format         14,644     *11,146*   -24%
>>
>>> Do you know how many of the remaining sales are the DD version?
>>
>> About 1,200, maybe more.

> So it's not worth dropping the floppy version yet, then? Would that
> cut costs?

It would, but 1,200 people buying the issue, as opposed to 1,200 people just
giving up on their Amigas because they aren't going to buy a CD-ROM drive
might be enough to close the mag.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Want to learn about Japanese daily life?
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:55:48 -0000
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> >>> Do you know how many of the remaining sales are the DD version?
> >>
> >> About 1,200, maybe more.
>
> > So it's not worth dropping the floppy version yet, then? Would that
> > cut costs?
>
> It would, but 1,200 people buying the issue, as opposed to
> 1,200 people just
> giving up on their Amigas because they aren't going to buy a
> CD-ROM drive
> might be enough to close the mag.

Is it a case of them buying the DD version 'coz they can't get the CD
version???
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
BASIC: Barely Allows Simple Input Code


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:57:15 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFC3B@THE_EXCHANGE>
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Hi Robert,

> Is it a case of them buying the DD version 'coz they can't get the CD
> version???

I wouldn't think so since the floppy edition is usually harder to find
(since it's a firm sale magazine, which means that shops can't simply send
the issues back for a refund at the end of the month, meaning that it's
actually a risk to stock it).

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: "james" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:49:38 GMT
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> <SINGING>Direct me to my abode, I'm fatigued and I wish to
> retire...</SINGING>

I consumed a small alcoholic beverage approximately one hour previously
and it appears to have had an adverse effect.

james


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From:   Pekka Sippola <[e-mail]>
Date:   Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:10:49 +0200
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Hello Kevin


>>>> Get FFS43.19_patch.lha from Aminet!
>>> Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
>>> Get WB3.5 which comes with FS45.1!
>>
>> Of course, but First Aid is sometimes needed!
>
> Presuming your hard drive is <4Gb and the partitions <2Gb then what's
> wrong with DiskSalv, ReOrg et al?

I think they don't help to that stupid reminder ;-)

Regards
--
Zipper

proud owner of A500 powerhouse ala '91
now cooking with A4000/233PPC




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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:03:59 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: james [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 11:50
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: New ABC
>=20
> > <SINGING>Direct me to my abode, I'm fatigued and I wish to
> > retire...</SINGING>
>=20
> I consumed a small alcoholic beverage approximately one hour=20
> previously=20
> and it appears to have had an adverse effect.

The words I have are:
"I consumed a small beverage approximately 60 Minutes ago,=20
and it's ascended to my ceranium.
No matter whither I perambulate,
Over Land, or sea or agitated water,
You will constantly observe me making this tuneful noise,
Direct me to my abode"

And another one to challenge y'all...
"Sintillate, Sintillate Diminuitive Asteroid"
--=20
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
Tagline censorship is a load of ^=A3%$^%$NO CARRIER


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:05:08 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFC3C@THE_EXCHANGE>
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Hi Robert,

> And another one to challenge y'all...
> "Sintillate, Sintillate Diminuitive Asteroid"

Doesn't really work though, does it? It's "scintillate" anyway, and there's
no way you can simply swap "star" for "asteroid".

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:12:15 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Vost [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 12:05
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: OT songs
>
> > And another one to challenge y'all...
> > "Sintillate, Sintillate Diminuitive Asteroid"
>
> Doesn't really work though, does it? It's "scintillate"
> anyway, and there's
> no way you can simply swap "star" for "asteroid".

I tried scintillate, but it didn't look right, and a star IS an asteroid in
the dictionary definition of the word, is it not?
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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While shepherds washed their socks by night...


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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 12:17:09 +0000
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:48:33 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here's the updated FAQ. Let me know what you think:

Looks good to ne  :-)

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:20:48 +0000 (GMT)
From: Mark <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFC3D@THE_EXCHANGE>
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Robert Johnston wrote:

> > > And another one to challenge y'all...
> > > "Sintillate, Sintillate Diminuitive Asteroid"
> >
> > Doesn't really work though, does it? It's "scintillate"
> > anyway, and there's
> > no way you can simply swap "star" for "asteroid".
>
> I tried scintillate, but it didn't look right, and a star IS an asteroid in
> the dictionary definition of the word, is it not?

No. An asteroid has to orbit the sun, apparantly. If you choose your
definition carefully you may be able to class an asteroid as a star though
- "any of the celestial bodies visible at night from Earth as relatively
stationary, usually twinkling points of light".

But I think astronomers would have a fit if you tried to tell them that
asteroids and stars were the same things ;)

Mark_H




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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 12:18:52 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFC3C@THE_EXCHANGE>
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:03:59 -0000, Robert Johnston ([e-mail]) wrote:

> And another one to challenge y'all...
> "Sintillate, Sintillate Diminuitive Asteroid"

How I postulate as to your actual being?

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:24:11 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Ben,

> > I honestly thought it would be worse than that Ben, more like 9,000
> > ABC. :(  Well I just hope that's a goo enough figure to keep AF
> > chugging along... :)  Oh and let's hope you get plenty of adverts!
:)
>
> That's the main problem right now.

Seriously Ben, what are the current fees for adverts in AF?  At the
back and in the main magazine.  What would half a page cost?  I'm
interested...

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:23:54 +0000
In-Reply-To: <880v1b$[e-mail]>
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Hi Nick,

> Seriously Ben, what are the current fees for adverts in AF?  At the
> back and in the main magazine.  What would half a page cost?  I'm
> interested...

TBH I don't know. I try to keep clear of the ads dept...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I'd like to change the world, but they won't give me
the source code. (Even if /they/ did I don't program...)




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From: Sandy Brownlee <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:41:52 +0100
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Hello Kevin

On 11-Feb-00, you wrote:

> But someone said that and you replied to correct them!  Look up there ^
> it's in the quote history!  Wiggle you way outta that one, worm ....

He said that 0-99 is the first hundred, and 2899-2999 is the thirtieth
hundred.

I meant to say: If 0-99 is the first hundred, *2900-2999* is the thirthieth
hundred, not 2899-2999.

Unfortunately, I goofed and said 13th, when I also meant 30th.

> BTW, when is Worms Armageddon due out for the Amiga?

Not soon enough :-)

> (phew, just managed to drag that on topic there.  hope no-one noticed ;)

Noticed what? ;-)

Regards

        Sandy

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From: Sandy Brownlee <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:52:15 +0100
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Hello Nick

On 11-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Hi Ben,
>
>> You can check it out for yourselves if you go to the ABC website, but
> our
>> new ABC was announced at midnight last night. We are now selling:
>>
>>                       1998       1999    move
>> Amiga Format         14,644     *11,146*   -24%
>>
>> :(
>
> I honestly thought it would be worse than that Ben, more like 9,000
> ABC. :(  Well I just hope that's a goo enough figure to keep AF
> chugging along... :)  Oh and let's hope you get plenty of adverts! :)

Yes, it's not as bad as I thought, either.

Not to be depressing, but how much more can AF take before the worst
happens?

Regards

        Sandy

--
Sandy Brownlee
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Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
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From: Sandy Brownlee <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:29:32 +0100
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Hello

On 11-Feb-00, I wrote:

> Not to be depressing, but how much more can AF take before the worst
> happens?

D'oh! It's already been asked...

Regards

        Sandy

--
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:31:15 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Ben

> > Seriously Ben, what are the current fees for adverts in AF?  At the
> > back and in the main magazine.  What would half a page cost?  I'm
> > interested...
>
> TBH I don't know. I try to keep clear of the ads dept...

Wow That was quick! :)  The number is in the mag so I'll look there
instead of bothering you.  Here's another idea, make AF a registred
charity then you can recieve legal external donations to keep going!
:-))

All the best,

Nick.

Bother said Poo as he caught Tigger digging up his garden.



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From: "james" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:19:33 GMT
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> And another one to challenge y'all...
> "Sintillate, Sintillate Diminuitive Asteroid"

How I speculate as to your nature
Elevated beyond the Earth, so lofty
Similar to a form of carbon suspended in the atmosphere

james


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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:32:01 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandy Brownlee [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 10:42
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: New ish
>
> I meant to say: If 0-99 is the first hundred, *2900-2999* is
> the thirthieth
> hundred, not 2899-2999.

/thirthieth/!! TH overload, I think.
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Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
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Vegetable and Mineral...


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:31:28 +0000
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Hi Nick,

> Wow That was quick! :)  The number is in the mag so I'll look there
> instead of bothering you.  Here's another idea, make AF a registred
> charity then you can recieve legal external donations to keep going!

Even without being a charity, Rich and I are only too happy to receive
donations of beer and crisps...

All the best,
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:35:35 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Vost [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 11 February 2000 12:31
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: New ABC
>
> > Here's another idea, make AF a registred charity then you can
> > recieve legal external donations to keep going!
>
> Even without being a charity, Rich and I are only too happy to receive
> donations of beer and crisps...

...And Women and Pizza and kebabs and...
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
WANTED: Tagline Generator, Good Hours, Lousy minutes, tho...


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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:10:13 +0100
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On 10-Feb-00, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

> it'd help you get the data off it?

I dont wanna get the data off, I wanna fix the RDB! perfectly good drive
here

> i was just wondering what you meant
> when you said "First Aid" was needed ...

By that he meant I needed some immediate help rather than ordering software
and hardware...

Mash -
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demonstrated in Sydney. The device houses no less than 6 of the new MMX
microprocessors, but in an unusual twist it uses the chips for their heat
generating properties rather than their computing ability.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:12:29 +0100
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On 10-Feb-00, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

>> 55 from everywhere plus at least 5 P&P

> From PowerC's advert, 15 for A1200 ROMs plus 35 for WB3.5 - okay, add
> P&P on top of that, but ...

From powerC's advert 20 for the roms, 35 for 3.5 and 5 for delivery, 60

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:39:23 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

> > Wow That was quick! :)  The number is in the mag so I'll look there
> > instead of bothering you.  Here's another idea, make AF a registred
> > charity then you can recieve legal external donations to keep going!
>
> Even without being a charity, Rich and I are only too happy to receive
> donations of beer and crisps...

Hmmm, if I could make it to a Bristol SWAG meeting I'd only be to happy
to buy you many many packets of crisps and beer.  Problems with that (I
am a SWAG member btw and I will get the newsletter online asap btw! :)
are:

* I'm 100 miles away from Bristol
* I'm almost Seventeen
* Which means legally I cannot drive :) (though I can!)
* I cannot afford the taxi there ;))
* Bus's don't go that far! :)

My solution; I'll send 'em to ya! :)  Will it arrive if I sent the
goods to:

Poor Peeps
Some Office
30 Monmouth St.
Bath

:)

All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:39:44 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

> > Wow That was quick! :)  The number is in the mag so I'll look there
> > instead of bothering you.  Here's another idea, make AF a registred
> > charity then you can recieve legal external donations to keep going!
>
> Even without being a charity, Rich and I are only too happy to receive
> donations of beer and crisps...

Hmmm, if I could make it to a Bristol SWAG meeting I'd only be to happy
to buy you many many packets of crisps and beer.  Problems with that (I
am a SWAG member btw and I will get the newsletter online asap btw! :)
are:

* I'm 100 miles away from Bristol
* I'm almost Seventeen
* Which means legally I cannot drive :) (though I can!)
* I cannot afford the taxi there ;))
* Bus's don't go that far! :)

My solution; I'll send 'em to ya! :)  Will it arrive if I sent the
goods to:

Poor Peeps
Some Office
30 Monmouth St.
Bath

:)

All the best,

Nick.
Bother said Poo as he saw Tigger farting in his honey.



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